Testimonials 4
I just
read in one of the major golf magazines an article with Davis Love the III
showing the same grip Perfect Impact teaches.
George explains it much clearer in his video but Davis was talking about the grip
his famous father always taught. This is not taught as much today, but it
is a very normal standard grip. IMO the problem is that SO many teachers focus
on the V's pointing to your shoulder or ear, which doesn't explain the why,
and what you are trying to accomplish with your grip. I wanted
to point this out to anyone who doesn't have the tape and isn't really sure
what all of us nuts are talking about :) It is not really a "different"
grip, my teacher tried to get me to do it 2 months ago, but it wasn't comfortable,
and he just didn't explain it as well as George does in his tape.
Here is how unsure I was about George's material. I talked to George LAST YEAR!
I saw Gravity Golf on Golf Academy Live, searched for in on the internet,
found Georges site, talked to him, was very interested but was scared away
by the prices. When
he lowered his prices, I jumped on it. If only I had done it last year ;)
Darren
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I never buy off on swing trainers or instruction videos. The claims made for
the "Five Minutes to a Perfect Golf Swing" video and "Perfect
Impact" were just too much to believe. I've never owned an instruction
video, so it was easy for me to pass off as so much fluff.
Then
some of you guys whom I respect started repeating those claims. Normally sane,
rational GEAers were making claims I absolutely could not believe. Huge distance
gains. Control gains. Unbelievable.
So I
had to check it out. I ordered, I received, I watched the video. I went through
the motions (as did my kids). But I violated the rules -- I haven't practiced
the "Perfect Impact" starting with short clubs and working my way
up BEFORE taking it to the course. Today (against orders) I took it to the
course just to get a taste.
Keep
in mind that I haven't practiced this stuff at all. Really, all I was employing
was the grip. The results?
From
the first swing with the new grip (and probably a little of the motion), I
picked up about 20 yards per club. Our first hole is a par-3 that I normally
hit a Quick Strike (22* or 26*) to. Today I hit the 26* Quick Strike and it
flew the green and went out of bounds. Then I picked up my 5-iron and put
it on the back of the green. The same story on shot after shot. I took an
average of two clubs less to make my distances today. If I didn't I flew the
greens (and did so 3 or 4 times). Fairway woods and driver were a bit wild
(like he said they would be if we didn't build up to them), but short irons
and wedges were absolutely spot-on. I felt like those guys in infomercials
who never miss. I literally hit four pins on 100-yard plus approach shots
today. Trajectory is higher and the added distance makes me feel 15-20 years
younger. I was hitting 5-iron and 6-iron with the same level of confidence
as my wedges. If this is what it's like without all the pieces, I can't wait
to see what will happen after a good deal of practice!
Reality:
If you already have a swing that incorporates these principles, you obviously
won't gain as much as I am. I didn't know my swing stunk so bad! If you're
a "short knocker," this video may be what the doctor ordered.
Downside:
I'm not kidding here. The shafts in my clubs are now probably too flexible.
What felt great before now feels kind of loose. I've never been able to feel
much kick from PING's JZ shafts. Today I picked up an Eye2+ with a JZ-R steel
shaft and could feel the kick every time. Great feeling! I don't know what
to do with the MC-01 shafts. I'll reserve judgment until I get more of the
"package" together. Also, my set makeup will have to change. In
the past, I've kept specific clubs in my bag (Quick Strikes and fairway woods)
specifically to reach our course's long par-3s. Now that I can reach them
with 4- and 5-irons, the hybrids are going to get lonely.
Next:
I've marked my calendar to get out at least four days per week and practice
as directed in the video. If this is what happens after just watching the
video once through and applying SOME of the principles, I can't wait to see
what the future holds.
W.D.
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The good
news is that I'm not sure how you could "over-do" this advice. It
is not a matter of "grip stronger/grip weaker" or "swing more
upright/swing flatter." There is a specific way he shows you to grip
the club. It feels a little funny at first, but soon it feels good. But the
way you grip the club is utterly repeatable. No way you could "overdo"
it. Same with the way to move the hands through the swing. There are not relative
terms. Simply "do it this way."
By pointing
your left thumb to your shoulder and swinging on that plane, you are on plane.
Simple and again, repeatable.
I can't
figure out what is making the ball flight so darn straight though. Everything
just flows.
While
the PI swing isn't "conventional" it is not a "quirky"
swing like some other systems I've seen taught. Nobody watching you swing
would think you were doing anything out of the ordinary.
I'll
ditto what another poster said. I'm a visual learner and couldn't picture
what was being said on the forum about the swing at all. However in the 45
minute video it was crystal clear, and simple almost to the point of "is
that it?" You "get it" almost immediately. The "5 minutes
(10 if you're a slow learner)" claim on the cover of the video is pretty
close to reality.
Then
again.... I'm WAY early in this thing, but the initial results were astonishing.
Out of the 6 approach shots I hit today, I'd say that the 8 iron on 11, and
the U wedge on 18 were my two best shots this year.
-D
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I think the reason George's info lights so many bulbs in the heads of the
folks who read his book/watch his video is because he's not trying to teach
anyone a swing. He's teaching people how to swing.
Beyond the path of the left thumb, everything else is tailored to fit a
person's individual dimensions and agility. In addition, his emphasis on
self-diagnosis is much different than most other teacher's philosophies.
I, like probably most who read this site, have read many many books and
seen many videos on the golf swing. So far, George's stuff has been the
most accessible for me and given me the most useful information for me.
I wonder if his approach and ability to communicate is due to his relatively
late start as a golf teacher and any prior training/vocations he had prior
to his latest career? In any case, in a short time, his stuff has really
given me some valuable lessons. I apologise if I'm preaching to the choir
but I'm sold on it and will probably be buying the 4 hr tapes in the near
future.
Sneak Preview: Ham & Egg Golf Forum, Owner
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in reply
to "message.asp?webtag=..." I've had the 5 minute tape for 2 weeks
now, and tonight was the first time I actually hit practice balls, however
my ball striking is the best I can remember. The reason for this is PI contains
all the elements I know work for me, in a neutral swing, but fill my head
with way too many thoughts to maintain any consistency.
The difference with PI is the simple instruction that allows me to focus on
one thought (action) which makes all the things I'm trying to do happen naturally.
With no practice at all, I began hitting everything better, in fact I've put
a 2 iron in the bag and have found an incredible weapon for tight tees and
long approaches into the wind.
Want
to catch your playing partners attention, bust a 2 iron past their drivers
in the center of the fairway.
By the way, my practice tonight was the best I can ever remember, I hit over
120 balls and only a couple were poor, the rest were excellent.
Greg
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in reply
to \l "a11" I just got done watching the tape and have skimmed through
the book. It's really weird because the two things I've been working on this
last week were my left hand grip and to try and keep the club from getting
stuck behind me. So I whipped the camcorder out and I'll be darned if I'm
not swinging on plane almost every single time. I have a tendency to get real
flat (think Sergio) which allows me to hit the ball a LONG way when I'm on,
and a long way OB when I'm off. I'm about to start the 4 hour tape series
and see what I might want to work on in that. Overall this stuff isn't quirky
at all, it's very interesting so far. IMHO.
Lb
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I got
the 5 minute video about two weeks ago. I've been extremely busy and have
only been able to watch it once and have not really worked on the drills.
I did go out and play after watching it once and used the grip and pointed
my thumb up the line as prescribed. I hit more greens in regulation than I
have in the last five years! Played 5 strokes below my index and would have
been better, but I'm "in between" drivers and lost 4 or 5 strokes
with big errors off the tee. My chipping is drastically improved also. The
thing that really impressed me was a shot on the 17th hole. I had 185 to the
pin into the wind. For me this is normally a 3 iron. I set up aiming left
since I expected my normal "fade" with the 3. I hit the ball dead
straight about 20 yards left of the pin. If anything can help me hit my long
irons this way I'm in!!
I have
since ordered the book and the 4 hour tape. I really feel like Perfect Impact
has something to offer me. I'm particularly interested to see what it can
do for my wife who has only played for one year.
With
my "old" swing my divots were short and kind of chunky. They all
went to the left of my intended target line. Working with the PI swing on
the range I noticed that my divots were straight down the target line, reasonably
long, and wafer thin.
Intrigued
by that I did a few PI swings in slow motion and notice that the head seems
to get on the line of impact about 10" to 12" behind the ball and
continue on that same straight line past impact.
I'm assuming
that is because of the "follow the line with your left thumb" image
that George has on the tape. It seems very effective. That is probably why
the shots seem to want to go so freakin' straight.
Is this
consistent with what other PIers are finding with the path of thier clubhead
and your divots?
In about
2 hours I'm off to play 9 with a buddy, so I'm anxious to see how things play
out. As unrealistic as it may sound, I'm so confident that at this point I'd
be disapointed with any score in the 40s.
-D
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I rarely
take a big divot at all, but they are all pointed directly at the target line.
I am playing the XPC Tour Steels and I don't know if the bounce is a factor,
but it almost seems as if my iron shots pretty cleanly pick the ball off the
tee or fairway. I am; however, generating a tremendous amount of backspin
because iron shots are sticking when I hit them. Hope this helps. Report on
how your 9 holes go this afternoon. I am taking my Perfect Impact swing to
Miami this weekend and plan on crushing some margaritas and some golf courses!
E.
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"/golfequip/messages?msg=46600.3"
in reply to \l "a2" I'm noticing increased backspin as well. This
is not only making my approach shots stick (even with my 4 iron) but may also
be behind the higher trajectory I am getting.
For the
record, I didn't have any "ballooning" problems even in the heavy
winds yesterday.
-D
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Not if
you get your weight outside the right foot, no weight transfer, and make the
obligatory chopping motion. :-) lol!
I just
came back in from hitting about 80 balls with 8 iron in the yard. There's
a piece of sheetmetal at 150, it's 7 feet long propped on it's edge. Moved
the ball to center, and was banging the metal with at least half the balls.
Also found that when I widened the stance just a bit, that fat shots ensued,
with the lower proximity to the ground. Was hitting off soft dirt with no
forgiveness for fat or thin. They weren't offline, just short.
I was
making absolutely sure to get the grip in the left fingers perpendicular.
Less right hand pressure was higher trajectory, possibly more distance. Pretty
tight grouping of balls, though.
The lie
angles will probably stay the same. Since, slight deviations in flight pattern
seem to be weight transfer related. A couple of Aleve and things should loosen
properly. :-)
F&G, Larry "mailto:lrb111@worldshare.net"
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It's
really no different, with the exception of a few simple thoughts.
Of course, there is considerable information that would apply to a beginning
golfer.
An analogy that I might make is with driver, for my standard straight shot,
my only thought is the finish position. That's because the body will do what
It takes to get to that position. Much the same as when Snead was asked how
do you hit draw/fade with driver. He made postions in the air where he wanted
the club to finish. Nothing else.
George's
info is much the same, not going into intricate detail, but rather 'here to
here'.
There's
not a lot of info about how to control the body. Probably a good plan.. for
many of us the less technical the better. Less to chew on. Sort of like having
one's belly button removed via plastic surgery, so I won't Have to contemplate.
:-)
I can't
remember any "Don'ts" in the info so far, which are death for most.
Though there might be some.
There is a lot of "This is proper".
In actual
technique I have been leveraging the club off the left pec for some time,
which is recommended. I have been motorcycling around with different grip
positions and ball positions, which this seems to cure (eliminate).
I've probably been putting more 'hit' into the ball than is necessary. The
grip modification might make that simpler, with the power coming from an accurate
release rather than a right hand snap.
A lot
of what is in the information has made sense to me for quite awhile, but I
haven't seen it offered specifically as it is in the in P.I. info.
The only
thing I would really take defference with George about would be his choice
of putter and style. However, the intesting aside is by George using the putter
he does and style (one-handed) it shows that putting truly is an individual
thing. He just hasn't had th opportunity to use a truly great long putter
yet. :-)
F&G,
Larry
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So is
this a completely new swing system (a la John Redman - bought the book - waste
of $$$) or just some fine tuning on the Hogan standard? I'm really curious
but also a little skeptical. I've been playing two years and could use a little
something to start beating my buddies.
There
doesn't seem to be anything particularly unorthodox about it. It's not a "new"
swing or anything. Seems mostly a different (and much simpler) explanation
of the mechanics of most good swings, and simple instructions for achieving
that.
PI is
unorthodox in a few subtle ways: the grip is slightly different, but the difference
is very important. The stance is narrower and more relaxed, the arms are softer
than the Hogan tradition.The most dramatic difference is that it works very
well! I have studied the golf swing for more than 40 years and my recent shots
are longer, very accurate, and have "pro" character in backspin
and trajectory. All this is only two weeks after getting the "5 minutes"
video. These results are phenomenal and very rare in the world of golf thinking
and teaching.
MadDog,
I felt the same way as you did. After going out to the range twice today,
and getting ready to go play 9, I can say that this is different than anything
I've encountered. I've kinda put my own "flavor" on the grip as
I had the clubface shut on everything to begin with. But then like George
suggested to someone else, I used a little WD-40, and I have to say that while
it still feels weird, my impact with the ball has been remarkable. Will it
take me from a 10 to a scratch in a month? No. But I'm willing to bet I'll
get there a LOT faster now, especially considering the greatest improvement
I've seen so far is in the short game. Take Care.
Lb
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For the
first time ever, I'm taking a divot since I tried PI, that's already a good
sign for me. I still have to fine tune every club to see what is the best
result.
Bernie
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From:
\l "" 10:37 am To: \l "" unread (17 of 17) "/golfequip/messages?msg=46600.17"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=46600.14" George,
Bind this post and get it published! (hehe)
Thanks
for the materials. I've watched the short viedo, read the book and am finishing
the 3rd video in the longer series. I will go back through them as I progress
w/ the instruction.
I am
very pleased with the clarity and detail of the content in all three trainning
pieces. I for one am glad it's taped indoors with less distractions.
I'll
let you know how I progress. Just wanted to thank you for your time.
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\l "" May-23 7:39 pm To: ALL (1 of 1) "/golfequip/messages?msg=46645.1"
As a good GEAer, I ordered the PI 45 minute tape from George this week. Today
I played golf and was having a particular frustrating and rotten round especially
after an encouraging one on Sunday. Nothing was going right and all my self-corrections
that I usually try failed. So towards the end of the round I started to think
of all the tidbits I gleaned from the discussions about PI on GEA the last
week. I figured I had nothing to lose and despite not having watched the video
yet, I tried a few things. First, on the setup I stood up straighter and tried
putting my left thumb straight down the shaft. On the backswing, I bisected
my right shoulder with my left thumb and on the downswing, I drop my hands
and then rotated my body. I didn't know if I was doing anything correctly
according to PI, but most of these changes I know are not too outrageous.
AND IT WORKED (the caps are for George). I started hitting the ball straight
and long. I realized when I got home that I had received my PI tape and figured
that the inspirations I had about PI came at about the time the tape arrived
at my house. It was PI Karma!! Now I am going to watch the tape and see if
what I did was correct. Thanks George.
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\l "" 6:54 am To: \l "" unread (34 of 34) "/golfequip/messages?msg=46512.34"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=46512.20" I received
the tapes and book a couple of a days ago and being a real dufus I was able
to pick it up almost in a snap. I must say my scores are usually in the high
90's so its not like I am re-grooving a swing. The way PI explained make light
come on. It is just too simple one of those why didn't I think of that!
This system will make golf instructors as busy as the maytag man. I cancelled
my lessons.
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Derrick,
none of the four went into the hole.
Hole
#2 - LW approach from an insane distance bounced once, hit the pin and bounced
to a stop two feet away.
Hole
#3 - SW approach came in too hot, hit the pin, and rolled 12 feet away.
Hole
#6 - 5-iron rattled the pin and stopped about 8 feet out.
Hole
#11 - LW approach (again from an insane distance) hit the pin on the fly and
bounced just off the green.
If I
could only have putted today, I would have had an incredible round. I took
32 putts -- the B60 didn't learn its lesson from its brief exile. Maybe I'll
have to bring the TPM back until it does.
W.D.
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Over
the past three years I've spent hundreds of dollars with the instructor with
one of the best reputations in this area. During that time, my non-USGA handicap
has gone from 8.6 to 14 and back to 12.
I'd say
conservatively that I got more out of watching the video one time than I did
out of all those lessons combined.
YIKES!
W.D.
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\l "" 10:44 pm To: \l "" unread (24 of 24) "/golfequip/messages?msg=46439.24"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=46439.19" Been
a busy week so just getting back.
Hopefully will be on the course tomorrow. The basic drill is going good and
I feel that I am understanding the material so far. (It is very easy to understand.
Well written indeed.) Keep posting. I enjoy the feedback from the GEA'rs who
are trying the material. Also, great to have Mr. Hibbard giving his feedback
on line. Good distance learning experience.
Regards
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\l "" 12:24 am To: \l "" unread (25 of 26) "/golfequip/messages?msg=46874.25"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=46874.18" I received
the Video and Book today. I only read the loose pages and already have clarification
of some major issues. Count me in for the reunion week of school!! Thanks
again!
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From:
\l "" 8:45 am To: ALL (1 of 1) "/golfequip/messages?msg=46938.1"
I am at about 3.5 now and usually get into the 2 range by mid-summer and have
been "stuck" here for about 3 years. My problem is one of consistency
and the ability to blow up more often than a low handicap would indicate.
As most know the really bad scores don't ever get figured into one's handicap.
What my ultimate goal is is to throw out high 70's and low 80's rather than
mid 80's scores. My secondary goal is to be surprised now and again with something
in the high 60's.
I received
the entire package of materials the other day and am glad that I did get the
set of three tapes covering four more hours of the same material that is in
the book. I would suggest that if you are truly committed to George's teachings
it is worthwhile buying the additional tapes. He covers in the tapes more
or less what he writes in the book. What you "don't get" out of
the book chances are that you will when watching him cover the same material
in the tapes.
I watched
all of the tapes and read half of the book before doing anything. I am the
type of person that needs to see the entire picture before fiddling with any
of the pieces. He makes sense, a lot of sense! After doing the above I spent
several hours over two days in my garage in front of the mirror doing drills
and hitting half, then full swings into the net.
I discovered
that there are things I already do right and others that need major repair.
What I am doing right is the grip and the pulling down with the left hand
to start the swing forward with the right hand being very passive.
There
are two major changes I needed to make. One is the width of my stance (mine
being way too wide), and controlling my swing with my torso and abandoning
my Jim Flick "arm swing" approach to swinging the club. This is
actually much easier than I thought in that one actually compliments the other.
By narrowing my stance it automatically forced me to abandon the arm swing
method. I instantly lose my balance if I just swing the club with my arms.
Doing the basic drills gave me all I needed to understand how the torso gives
me the gas I need to swing the club. I even started hitting some hard 3/4
- 7 irons in the net with my feet about 2" apart, something I would never
attempt in the past. Splaying the left foot out is important to the success
of all of this for me.
I don't
know if this is correct but found that for me to get crisp contact after "floating
the club to the top" I need to get the sensation that the club barely
begins to fall when I have to pull rather hard for an instant in a straight
downward motion before letting gravity take over. I feel that my right hand
is very passive throughout the swing and will have to work on the "slight"
right hand action in the coming days. Regardless, I feel a lot more grip pressure
in my left hand than I do with the right.
On the
range success came rather swiftly. I did some drills with the wedge and started
with half then three quarter shots. So I grabbed my 7 iron, choked up an inch,
and hit full out. The first four balls were "Perfect Impact" and
very straight. I hit the next one fat and left, but instantly knew why and
made the correction and then went on to hit several more with perfect impact.
It took about 4 balls to get my 4 iron going but then hit several very solid
shots. Then on to the 7 wood where I only hit two balls, both solid and straight.
I pulled out the 3 wood and the results were the same. I thought, hell, why
not hit the driver. I sprayed the first 5 drives all over the place. Thought
about it for a minute then narrowed my stance 6 full inches and proceeded
to hit the next 4 balls very solid and straight. At that point I went back
to the wedge and worked the drills, 1/2, and 3/4 shots for the next hour.
I was
hitting into a slight wind and cannot honestly evaluate any increase in distance.
My feeling is that the distance is the same but I now achieve it with much
less effort. My hope is that this less effort will lead to more consistency
in keeping my shots more on the target line.
I spent
the better part of the next two hours at our short game practice facility
where I found the going much more difficult. Using a "partial" torso
turn is involves a lot more coordination than a full one. The weight left
(and staying there), head dead still, narrow stance, and torso dominated swing
is all new to me. I found that I still need that slight pull from the left
arm on the forward swing to make it all work for me. When I brought all of
these elements together it works VERY WELL. The rhythm and timing is also
a bit troublesome for me when trying to coordinate all of the other aspects.
For the next few days I will spend the bulk of my time trying to get all of
this to come together as I feel that if I can somewhat master this the long
game will come much easier.
My compliments
to George on an outstanding approach to FINALLY producing a package on the
golf swing that I can relate to and FULLY understand. Will my handicap come
down after all of this? Who knows? I do however, fully expect to be more consistent
in my ball striking and this in turn should lead to fewer really bad days.
After all of this I still believe that the short game is where a low handicapper
needs to concentrate the bulk of his practice efforts in order to shave those
last few strokes from his handicap. Even in this area George has given me
all of the pieces. I just need to put the puzzle together
Recent
Customer Feedback
George
and all,
I
just wanted to put my .02 in for PI. I have stayed way from the GEA for
a long while after having sworn off equipment as the answer to improving
my golf game and returned to find the best instructional resource I have
ever seen right here as part of the GEA!
Knowing
that any sponsor of the GEA has passed the scrutiny of the most demanding,
critical, skeptical and wildly enthusiastic golfers on the planet, I immediately
purchased George's full package.
I
am delighted and astounded by George's ability to uncover and communicate
the subtleties of the dynamics of swinging the golf club. For two years
I have understood intellectually that the proper way to swing a golf club
is through centrifugal (sp) force. Having read and tried to apply the teachings
of Ernest Jones and Jim Flick I have improved a little, but never really
"got it".
By
George I think I have now got it!!! George you really have unlocked the
secret to better golf. I am already seeing many of my ingrained "IRS"
reactions melting away on the practice range. Your drills really work to
begin to ingrain the proper techiques that then transfer to achieving "perfect
impact".
It
is going to take me a while to develop my swing and capabilities using PI,
but It is all there for the taking. For the record, I am a 12 and just last
week won my flight at my club's match play championship -- before PI. I
have always been frustrated because I have been a good athlete and a good
competitor but never been able to be a good or consistent golfer. I have
always felt I was a single digit handicapper trapped in a hack's body.
George
thanks for giving me the keys to unlock my potential as a golfer. I am absolutely
committed to following the drills and the process as prescribed and will
update as I progress. Fellow GEA'ers, If you are like me and need to have
the big picture and know the why's and how's of the golf swing get the PI
full package. The short video is a great overall introduction to the key
techniques, but the book and long video series really bring it all together.
I got benefit from both the book and the videos as some of the concepts
and drills in the book made more sense to me when I saw them executed on
video.
George,
thanks. Keep up the great work!! BTW my package arrived in three days after
ordering -- Great service George!
"/golfequip/messages?msg=53242.2"
in reply to \l "a1" I couldn't agree more. As of today's update,
my local handicap has dropped three points (from 13 to 10) since I started
with the PI short tape. Golf is a lot more fun this way!
W.D.
"/golfequip/messages?msg=53242.3"
in reply to \l "a1" I like the P.I. thing the most that it helps
you understand the swing & from there on you became your own teacher.
Bernie
Exactly!
I no longer feel like a blind squirrel looking for my one acorn. I am finding
it much easier to both "feel the swing" and analyze the key elements
to work on. For me I had already begun to find the right plane before PI
and grip was close. I had never been comfortable with a "classic setup"
so making adjustments there has been no problem.
I
need the most work on the transition and really waiting for my weight to
shift back to the left and the right hand piston move.
I
am trying to stay off the course for full week or more to begin to lock
in some of the basics. Boy is it tough!
Good
luck!
sory
bro,
What's PI you talking about? bit lost here. Is it a video tape?
regards,
R
PI
is Perfect Impact & is a Book/Video Program offered by George Hibbard.
The website is: "http://www.perfectimpact.com." There are a number
of GEAer's who have purchased his stuff (me included). There are a ton of
posts related to PI under this heading that you can check out. I'm a big
fan of PI too. Kj/NC
"/golfequip/messages?msg=53242.8"
in reply to \l "a7" I think most of the guys say the 45 minute
intro video is the way to start. George says it's better to start w/the
intro video also. I bought the whole shootin' match & for me the 3-video
pack coupled w/the book was the most helpful...but then again that's just
me. He has a 30-day money back guarantee as well. Also, this is not anything
drastic or a whole new swing method...it's just a different (and to many
of us) a better, more root oriented way of explaining the true mechanics
of the swing. Good luck. Kj/NC
From:
\l "" 10:37 am To: \l "" unread (97 of 97) "/golfequip/messages?msg=46874.97"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=46874.95"
Let
me give a second-hand testimonial. A local friend of mine who doesn't participate
on this forum recently got the 45-minute video. This friend is among the
worst golfers I've ever seen. He makes consistent contact, but that contact
ALWAYS results in a ball flight about 45 degrees right of where he is aligned.
He was so consistent in this ball flight that he adjusts for it in his alignment
(which looks very strange) and is able to eke out a score in the upper 90's
or low 100's.
He
watched the video twice. He went through the motions over a number of days
at his house. (He has no access to a practice range.) Then he came out onto
the course. He took his time taking the grip properly. He imagined the swing
path and practiced it -- then he hit the ball. Every stroke, he was meticulous
in following the instruction in the video.
The
results? He's hitting the ball where he aims for the first time in his life.
With the woods, it isn't very consistent yet, but with the irons and wedges
he is absolutely spot-on. On his first P.I. stroke, he said, "wow!"
On his second P.I. stroke, he said, "I've never hit a 9-iron like that!"
(It was straight at the pin, but flew thirty yards over the green.) He became
extremely accurate and gained a huge amount of distance (as you can imagine).
His biggest problem -- besides the woods -- was figuring out how far he
was going to hit the ball. That will come. I don't think he minds adjusting
to too much distance.
Thanks!
W.D.
From:
\l "" 6:47 pm To: \l "" unread (6 of 7) "/golfequip/messages?msg=49093.6"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=49093.1" For
more complete swing coverage, definitely get the book as well as the first
tape.
The
book is awkward reading, but has A LOT OF DEEP FUNDAMENTAL SUBSTANCE. Reading
through it, A LOT OF LIGHT BULBS WENT ON. I'm still working on the various
points, and my swing keeps getting better. I am using less effort and my
swings are smoother. The ball is going out straighter, higher and further.
Another
benefit - when I mishit, I have a much better sense of where I probably
went wrong and can much better self-fix to get it back.
I
would suggest getting the 4 hour tape as well. This material fleshes out
the book.
The
combined package is invaluable. You can't get a better set of instructional
material on the golf swing from anywhere else.
From:
\l "" 7:10 pm To: \l "" unread (7 of 7) "/golfequip/messages?msg=49093.7"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=49093.1" you
will eventually want the entire package....(I ordered everything approximately
2 months ago) I agree that the book and the 45 min. tape will get you started
and give you ALOT to work on.
So far I've read the book twice. I've watched the 45 min. video 4 or 5 times
and still havn't made it thru the 4 hours tape series. I can tell you this.....you
will be glad you decided to get the material. I would go so far as to say
you will see an immediate improvement in your ball striking. The point is
that you will want to re-read and re-watch the material. Why? Because each
time you can pick up another tidbit of info that you can USE in your drills
and swing. Great Stuff! Good luck!
From:
\l "" 6:23 pm To: \l "" unread (15 of 15) "/golfequip/messages?msg=49369.15"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=49369.1" Are
you using the PI swing?
I
find that with the PI swing, I am hitting my balls much higher than before
and with greater distance. :)
From: \l "" Jun-25 10:06 pm To: \l "" (17 of 17) "/golfequip/messages?msg=49369.17"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=49369.16" -
Absolutely.
- Buy all three items (the short video, the book and the 3 set tape).
- There are things in all three that you can't get anywhere else. The book
is awkward to read, but the substance is phenominal. I've read Hogan, Leadbetter,
Pelz, Nicklaus, McLean, many more, and watched many tapes.
- George Hibbard's PI fills in the blanks. Gives you a clear understanding
of correct fundamentals and the tools with which to self develop your golf
swing and implement it.
- It is quite remarkably phenomenal what he has put together into an integrated
cohesive body of material.
-
I have to note that a number of beginning PI swingers indicate great results
off the bat with short and mid irons, but have a little more difficulty
with the driver.
- I am having GREAT results with my driver, hitting long and high and pretty
darn straight. And I am using less effort and swinging a lot smoother. All
thanks to George Hibbard's PI material.
- In applying the PI swing method, I preslot my backswing to achieve the
same swing plane going back as coming down. I think George's material and
his posting at GEA cover this, but the material may not have been all that
easy to read as to what is or should be done here. I do this for all clubs
on the back swing. I address the ball with my arms hanging relatively down
(after taking the standard measurements one make in taking one's stance).
This sets a precock of the wrists. Then as I turn the shaft back to begin
the backswing, I bring my cocked wrist out to the ball-target line at the
outset of turning my waist and shoulders back. That is, although my arms
hang down at set up, as I take it away, I bring my arms out somewhat so
that my hands and arms form a straight line from my left shoulder to the
ball's target line by the time my hands get to my right knee area, and also
such that shaft points from the ball to my right shoulder.
- There many substantive aspects about the swing that George's PI material
covers, all of them important and together quite formidable. Best of all,
it all hangs together and makes great sense.
From:
\l "" 12:24 am To: \l "" unread (4 of 4) "/golfequip/messages?msg=50557.4"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=50557.1"
Get
all 3 by all means.
The
45 minute helps you quickly get a good consistent swing plane using simple
insightful and very effective techniques.
The
book provides many foundational elements of the golf swing (much deeper
than "fundamental" elements) and not discussed anywhere else by
others. It has particularly good discussions relating to how power is generated
and how to develop smooth repeating accuracy.
The
4 hour video (I've only looked at the first 2 tapes), provide excellent
illustrations and great drills for developing power and smooth repeating
accuracy of swing. The 4 hour video does give many additional foundational
insights, and practical techniques not in the book.
George
Hibbard really delivers in communicating the hidden underlying foundations
of the golf swing. The material he has unveiled and made available is truly
invaluable in making a great golf swing accessible to those in search of
improvement.
From:
\l "" 1:45 pm To: ALL (1 of 5) "/golfequip/messages?msg=51041.1"
There have many converts over to the P.I. method. Are you still satisfied
and are you still making progress?
From:
\l "" 2:08 pm To: \l "" (2 of 5) "/golfequip/messages?msg=51041.2"
in reply to \l "a1" Very much. I started with Gravity gof and
PIhas added a new dimension.I tried last year to use other methods but came
back to PI never to go away. I is simple and when I am hitting my irons
long and straight and have the confidence that whe I stand over the ball
it wil take a great accident for me not to hit it staight why sould one
not be happy.
But it does take work ans meticulous work I mght add.
From:
\l "" 3:35 pm To: \l "" (4 of 5) "/golfequip/messages?msg=51041.4"
in reply to \l "a1" Other than the stance, I really didn't find
anything "new" in the video. It is rather basic stuff on how to
swing the club.
I
find myself using a wider stance than recommended in PI only to keep from
kicking my hips out too much. It did help me look at my set up and am now
a little closer to the ball and more upright especially with my short irons,
and I think I am more accurate now.
From: \l "" 4:01 pm To: \l "" unread (5 of 5) "/golfequip/messages?msg=51041.5"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=51041.1" Yes...and
yes. I shot a 69 yesterday...thanks to the pi program and the whippy driver,
not bad for 4 weeks with the pi, and 3 weeks with the whip. Perfect Impact
+ whippy driver = WhipPi results. I think you need both to really see the
improvements as fast as I have. In league play, once a week, I have gone
79, 75, and yesterday's 69. Prior, to this, I was stuck in the 80's duldrums.
I would like to play more, but job time constraints only allow me to play
once a week. Thanks George for a great program...and thanks to the guys
at whippy (tempomaster.com).
From:
\l "" 11:24 am To: \l "" (3 of 3) "/golfequip/messages?msg=51196.3"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=51196.1" I've
been having similar results as you...haven't hit any pins, but accuracy
is much better. I have, as you, incorporated PI principles into what's comfortable
for me & it has really helped my consistency as well. I don't know about
you, but the things that have been most helpful to me are the one arm drills,
the grip (not as strong as George advocates, but close), & for some
reason, the image of pushing a child on a swing. PI has been very helpful
in helping me understand the cause & effect factors in diagnosing my
mistakes. On course correction is much improved. Your posts have been helpful
as well. Thanks & have a great holiday.
Kj/NC
From:
\l "" 12:11 pm To: \l "" (4 of 5) "/golfequip/messages?msg=51196.4"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=51196.1" The
PI saga continues - I was at a course last week at a conference which I
had never played and shots lights out just because my shorter iron shots
got so close I could 1 putt to save par. Then on the 17th a 135 par 3 I
missed an ace by one ball turn. PI really is working.
Jack
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George,
I've had some great results with your material and I'm now enjoying my golf
again. My undersatnding of the swing is so much greater than it has ever
been. I played Sunday and finished the round 3 over. A
good result given that my handicap had been out to 8 before PI, (now 6 and
reducing). However, my round included 3 cold tops from the tee with a driver
in hand. I have been fighting this for the last two years, hence my belief
that I can play a lot better. I feel certain it's because I'm coming out
of my address posture. Is there any way I can do a self test to check my
suspicions? Can you recommend any drills/tips to teach my body to stay down
through the ball? Incidentally, this lifting out of posture isn't apparent
with my irons, which I have been flushing.
Regards
Hegers
Last
night the wife and I are talking about golf and she asks me if I've ever
shot par. I say no, my best ever was 37 for nine ( 1 over ) and 79 for 18.
So
tonight I go out with a buddy at 8:00 to sqeeze in 9. ( Longest day of the
year you know. ) Shoot even par 36!! Lowest previous was 43.
Start
out by lipping my birdie put on 1. Par
#2 par 3. Leave 8 footer for bird short. Par
Drain 20 footer for bird on #3.
2 putt from 40 feet on #4 for par.
Tap in 2 footer for bird on #5.
2 putt for par on #6.
Chunk approach on #7 and miss 8 footer to save par.
Chunk tee shot on #8 short par 3.On the green but 3 put from 80 feet or
so.
Got up and down for par on #9.
EVEN
PAR!! I was just dialed in tonight. Hit 7 of 9 greens in reg. This Perfect
Impact stuff is starting to really work for me. I only mis hit 2 iron shots
which is rare for me.
Have
faith boys and relax out there. If I can do it so can you!
Brian
Joined:
Mar 31, 2001
Posts: 467
From: Danville, California
Posted: 2001-07-09 01:20
Well,
I got my copy of George Hibbert's 45-minute Perfect Impact tape, and the
book, yesterday.
By
way of background, I have been playing really poorly the last few weeks.
Depressingly poorly.
Then,
PI shows up and I get a short refresher course on basic swing fundamentals,
with some excellent, simple ways to actually set up and execute them on
the range and on the course. Fundamentals I have never seen taught so clearly
ANYWHERE else. But that's just my experience, of course.
Got
sufficiently psyched that I didn't bother going to the range first (sorry,
George, I am an impatient man) -- just straight to the first tee.
Played
12 holes with Mrs. Ham at twilight, and did not make poor contact once.
Not once. Striking the ball was simply a joy again. Using George's concepts
about pulling the butt end of the grip through and letting the clubhead
release on it own, I was making sweet, sweet contact. Over and over and
over.
George's
"magic left thumb" grip tip is solid, and I've never seen it anywhere
else. His guidance on exactly what line it is you're trying to swing down
is very sound. His observations about how to set up to the ball are terrific.
And his belief that things can be made simpler in the golf swing directly
parallels my own beliefs, based on my Extraordinary Golf experience.
Criticisms?
George could have used some coaching on how to make eye contact with the
camera. He is very earnest, but the video production values are amateurish
at best. Some scripting and much tighter editing would have helped make
the video a lot more satisfying. But that's a quibble if you ask me, because
this is a guy who is sincerely trying to impart some information he's worked
darned hard to bring to light.
Frankly,
I may never get to the book. The writing seems more the work of an engineer
than a writer. But I expect that I will watch that 45-minute video until
I wear it out.
Particularly
for someone who has been working at the game for as long as I have, PI brings
things home in a wonderfully simple manner.
And
it is only George's earnest desire to honestly say, "Well, wait, there
IS a bit more to discuss here," that creates any information overload
at all in any of the material.
So,
overall, it's about a C+ for production values and quality of writing, and
an A for value of content in my book.
Personally,
I've seen enough stuff in the golf world that's an A+ for production values
and an F for value of content, I find PI extremely refreshing.
But
again, that's just me talking...
:
\l "" 11:22 am To: \l "" unread (31 of 32) "/golfequip/messages?msg=51521.31"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=51521.17"
I
bought your book & videos about 2 months ago & they have been a
tremendous help to me. The thing it has done is simplify, reduce, or totally
eliminate my swing thoughts. FYI, the things that have been the most help
are:
1.
Picturing a woman pushing a child in a swing. (Believe it or not)
2. No tension in the left shoulder.
3. Adjusting my grip.
I
hit 11/18 greens this past weekend with 16 pars, 2 bogeys, & a ttttriple
on 18 (couldn't stand prosperity) for a 75 (par 70). My iron game is much
more consistent round to round. The book & video on the surface may
initially seem to be very technical, but the reality is that your method
is very feel oriented & very repeatable. Thanks.
Ken/NC
"Concious competence done in cold blood."
Hey
I just wanted to thank everybody for those great tips posted to my
question "On the brink of madness". As it turned out, I was afterall
simply
standing too far away from the ball with my 3W. I'm all better now. Special
thanks to that PerfectImpact guy for the tip.
-water
: \l "" 11:51 am To: \l "" unread (12 of 13) "/golfequip/messages?msg=51041.12"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=51041.9" Hey
Mr. Controversy :)
Caught
John Redmon (Azinger's coach) last night at 11:00pm on GC Academy Live...he
said some things that are pretty darn similar to your 45 minute tape and
what you have noted here...he mentioned the left arm lever, centrifugal
release, etc, I swear it was like watching your video...he was the first
"name-brand" instructor that I have ever heard use the term centrifugal
release...he made a comment, just before he started talking about the left
arm, that was along the lines of "these next comments, lots of people
are gonna disagree with, but I don't care, this is what I think happens..."
CP
George-
I
played golf today and on the first tee box the thing about lay the left
arm around the chest through impact just clicked, I was stripping drive
250+ down the middle all day. I felt like there was no effort in the swing
at all and it felt so natural. Ended up shooting a 76. Thanks for your instruction.
in
answer to “what is your favorite golf instruction book” --
-Andrew
:
\l "" 10:12 am To: \l "" (5 of 5) "/golfequip/messages?msg=52175.5"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=52175.4" Tommy
Armour's "How to Play your best Golf all the time", "Swing
like a Pro", Ben Hogan's "Power Golf", John Jacobs "Golf
Swing Simplified..", GH's "...Perfect Impact..."
\l
"" Jul-11 11:18 pm To: \l "" (19 of 21) "/golfequip/messages?msg=51041.19"
in reply to "message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=51041.1" Have
had very good results with PI. I have been (and continue) studying the 45
min tape, the book, and the 3 tape series of instruction. No question perfect
impact has had a positive impact on my game. My scores prove it.
Mr.
Hibbard declares right up front, "now anyone can play par golf".
Based on the short amount of time I've used this instructional material,
I believe it. No, not there yet.....but....there is light at the end of
the tunnel....and that makes golf fun...fun...fun.
Good
luck!
Dear
Mr Hibbard,
My
name is Craig Hergenhan and I am a 37 year old living in Brisbane Australia.
I
have a friend in Phoenix and about 6 weeks ago I got him to buy your book
on my behalf and have it sent over.
Thank
you for writing such an authoritative book about.It has been well overdue,especially
to someone like me who takes his golf seriously yet until now had been frustrated
by not achieving a consistent,repeatable swing where the underlying exertions
and lack thereof have led to me trying to muscle the ball and manipulate
the swing from start to finish.
Just
two quick points though.
1.In
your chapter on putting I found it hard to visualise your correct two handed
grip.Perhaps a couple of photo's would have been beneficial....and
2.I
am having trouble getting my weight onto my left leg/pivot area whilst letting
my arms and club to still be on it's upswing.What I find is that as soon
as I start to transfer my weight from right to left foot my natural(or should
I say ingrained tendency)is to start the arms down which results in a three-quarter
back swing and the down swing gets very steep with a deep angle of attack.Needless
to say it pretty much ruins the shot.
Any
suggestions?
Cheers,
Craig
Hergenhan.
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I
got the PI tapes in mid May. My handicap was about 12. (I don't remember
the exact number.)
Here
is a copy and paste from "http://www.ghin.com" that shows my current
handicap. One interesting thing to note is that almost all of my current
scores are counting towards my handicap.
The
following is your USGA Handicap Index and scoring record at your golf club
based on the latest revision date. This service is provided to you by your
golf association which uses the USGA|GHIN service.
The
ten rounds with the lowest Handicap Differentials that were used are listed
with the "*" in the "IF USED" column.
*
H
010710
79
68.8
110
*
A
010704
80
71.8
136
*
A
010704
83
71.1
121
A
010704
90
70.7
144
A
010704
88
72.6
138
*
A
010704
84
70.8
120
*
H
010704
82
72.8
131
*
H
010614
85
74.8
138
H
010614
83
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