Perfect Impact Golf Secrets

My husband collects and studies every golf book and video on the market! Most of the time I just shake my head and go on. That is until he got George Hibbard's book and videos. These are the most thorough materials out there! We were both so impressed that we went to see George in Palm Coast, Florida for a five day school.

We've both been to the Jim McLean school in LaQuinta and the Phil Ritson-Mel Sole school in Myrtle Beach for private lessons. George's teaching method is far superior in my opinion. I've also had a lesson with Kirk Lucas (Kris Tschetter's husband and coach). Again, no comparison.

George's book is a MUST READ along with the videos. And if you can "swing" a trip to Palm Coast for his school, don't hesitate! You'll never meet anyone who cares more about his students. KR

George, I ordered your materials last week (and received them in two days), and I'm following your steps in the order you suggest. A little backround: I've been playing golf (seriously) for about 8 years now, having spent 21 years as a fastpitch softball pitcher who attained quite a bit of success. I'm used to playing any sport well, but I just couldn't get "the hang" of the golf swing. I am a self-taught 10 handicap at my home course ( 6,750 yards 71.3 / 117 ). The information that you provide in your materials has been a "god-send". Because of our awful weather pattern here (Erie, Pa.) I haven't been able to get outdoors as of yet, but I have been going to our local indoor golf-dome where I've been able to incorporate the "new" swing mechanics on a daily basis.

The results (thus far) have been nothing short of miraculous. I now swing with much more power and control. Obviously, I can't wait to get outdoors and try this stuff out!!! At 52 yrs old, I still maintain a great deal of flexibility, and have been told that I have a "beautiful swing". Just wait until my playing partners get a load of THIS!!!! Power & control.

I honestly can't begin to imagine what my handicap will drop to.....but i know this much - it will fall. I can feel it already. I work 2nd shift at the local GE assembly plant here in Erie. I played 110 rounds last year, and my low score was 76. I'm going out on a limb here, but I believe that I will approach level par sometime soon - if the snow ever melts. I really appreciated your "dedication" in your book, George, as I too am a spiritual man. I believe golf is a spiritual game, if one allows it to be. I play early in the morning on most days, and can't help but admire the awesome sunrises that the Master Painter provides to us golfaholics. I hope to meet you someday. In my experiences on the golf course, I can honestly say that I have met some of the nicest people on the golf course. Hopefully, we can play a round together sometime. Thanks for all the help you have provided thus far ( and I'm only just on page 47...) and I'll keep in touch via e-mail to let you know of my progress. May God bless you and yours... J R Erie, Pa.

Last night at home I worked on some of your basic swing drills along with working on the grip (heel of right hand on top of bottom of left thumb, etc). I wasn't sure about the position of the left hand on the club (strong or weak), so to start, I just tried to make it the same as the position of my left hand standing upright and relaxed.

I just got back from a range session today using your recommended techniques. I started with a 9 iron swinging easy. I hit about 10 shots or so, then increased the swing speed and rotated the left hand until the shot trajectory was straight. All I can say is WOW!!! If you were standing here beside me, I would hug you! I have never hit such high, penetrating, straight shots. Sure, they all were not perfect, but 80% of them were better than anything I have ever hit before.

I'm not through watching all of the videos or reading all of your book (I definitely will), but what I have learned so far (passive arms, narrow stance, weight shift - before the swing, right hand not controlling the swing) has dramatically improved my ball striking. I couldn't help myself (even though you recommended not to do this) but I did hit some long irons, 3 woods, and driver shots. Again, the trajectory, direction, and distance were fantastic.

I'll give you more feedback as I continue to learn and improve. I couldn't be happier with your video and book instruction. I ended last golf season with a 10.5 handicap index. Single digit here I come. Thank you, thank you, thank you……………………………...Chuck

Hi, George,

I have been using your system of learning for over 7 months now, and
the results have been AWESOME! Thank you, with deepest respect............
Jeff R

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George I see you just posted to this thread as I also have done. I should take this opportunity to thank you for your assistance with my game. I purchased your videos last summer and while I had my ups and downs I do credit your instruction with helping me shoot a career best 76 on one occasion and a 77 on another with the back nine at even par. When I didn't play well at other times it was because I swayed into old habits but I wholeheartedly recommend your instruction to anyone who is serious about golf and wants to get better. All I know is that I never shot those scores before I rec'd your instruction and only faltered when I swayed from it. I won't sway this year. All the best and thank you!

Newby here but I must say that if a guy knows what he's talking about he can
shout at me all he wants!

I am a handsy player and when not under tension can play a pretty strong
game but its hit and miss under the pressure of team play , match play or a
money game. Now this fellow George talks about the hard bone at the end of
the right hand and boy did that HELP ME!

Now those 5 footers and chips and half pitches are crisp and close if not
in!

The best tip I blieve I have ever recieved and should move me from a 7.2 to
at least a 4!

Thanks Mr. Hibbard.

Nice group here

Pops

P.S. I've played for 43 years

Dear Mr. Hibbard: My name is Gary Brunetti. I will be 50 years young in May of '03. I have played golf my whole life, and started so young that I don't remember the first time I swung a club or even played my first round. I've read and heard about every golf "theory" that's been written. Even the David Lee stuff. I've managed to get to a plus 2 handicap on my home course (which ain't too shabby) and have maintained that handicap in the general vicinity for about a dozen years or so. However, I had considered my game very erratic and my scoring very dependent on my short game, and, therefore, on how much time I could spend practicing. I rarely had whole rounds of really solid ball striking that would allow me to hit 14-15 greens, make a couple of saves, knock in some birdies, and shoot a smooth round in the 60s. It has always been a battle. I hit the ball far enough (260or so of carry as measured by the Titleist launch monitor) when I'm "on" but it always had the potential to go about anywhere. I also seemed to have the terminal pull-cuts. Anyway, I read the info on your web site, was somewhat intrigued (myself being an engineer by training), and so, purchased your book. The initial part of the book concerning body rotation I readily understood and agreed with, as this was basically how I was trying to swing the club, except that I was starting the downswing from farther behind me. So, for the first half of your book, I thought I was doomed to mediocrity. Then you introduced me to something I had never considered before: swinging the club like an axe. I read this section 50 times over if I read it once. After 5 or 6 range sessions, I finally got the joke! Now, instead of moving the club from my behind my right side to my left side (I'm right-handed), I am moving the club with the whole of both of my arms up and down! I toss my arms diagonally out to the right and off of my chest (though, at this early point in my training, I am exaggerating the "up in front of me" feeling), then I let the weight of my arms falling generate the speed of the swing while my spine is tilted to the right with my body weight into my left heel. That is the fulcrum over which my upper body counterbalances the "weight" of my arms swinging as they move through impact. I then let my body "follow" or react to my arms and move to a very balanced finish (I could stand there all day) where I watch the ball streak on a high, flat trajectory STRAIGHT to the target! The key for me was the concept of swinging the axe. From the standpoint of feel AND concept, I had always thought of the club as having to move away from the target, then back towards the target. It had never occurred to me to explore the other extreme of up and down movement. I had done drills in the past where I lifted my arms, then rotated my torso, then hit the ball from there. Most of the time, I hit it pretty straight if I, by accident, didn't start rotating too early. But I still never came close to grasping what was going on. I was always a prisoner of trying to turn my shoulders, never realizing that a full, upwards feeling, arm swing will yield a complete shoulder turn. But now, with the light turned on, I can't wait to go practice and to take this to the golf course! Even after a half dozen range sessions, this concept has allowed me to make the most effortless and consistent swings ever. And the ball flight; direction, trajectory, AND distance, well, it's awsome. I was seriously thinking of giving up the game when this came along. I can't thank you enough for awakening my excitement for the game and showing me a real path for solid, genuine, improvement!

george -- just had to tell you that it works. i gained 50 yards on my drives and i dont pop them up anymore. the grip and full body turn just brings everything together and you just swing .my irons are also back up in the air with greater distance and height. it took reading the book some drills and 6 hrs at the range to put it all together. when i was at the range there was aman practicing with his coach and struggling to hit the ball. i confronted them and gave them the the tip to start the swing with a body turn and the i showed them the grip they would not even try it even after i blasted 160 yard 8 irons without roll over the target green. i would love to play his coach just to prove to him that everything in the book is dead on . cant wait to play this week i will write back and let you know how i did. thanks for putting the info in tearms that i could understand and apply it will be a fun round of golf. (private email rec'd Oct 18, 2002)

thanks George. my distances surprise me sometimes especially since my swing is vastly shorter than it used to be. but it is more efficient. I am a realist though and know the standard lofts on the mx-20 are a little jacked up and my distances would not be as long with say some MP-33s but I 'll take them. Also I am over 6' 3" and have the luxury of a natural wider arc.

Working through your stuff this fall, I am enjoying it very much. I really like your ideas about starting the swing with 'the heave'. It has really improved my rhythm and gave me that natural pause at the top instead of the fake one that I was using where I would bring the club to the top, stop, and then swing ..ala Bob Murphy.

George,on my first round of golf after viewing your tapes and
limited practice, I holed out my second shot from 145 yards for an eagle
two. I recognize the luck in that shot, but the quality of the strike
was definitely influenced by your outstanding instruction. Thank you.
Do you advocate the use of training aids? If so, what would you
recommend to facilitate my learning quest to become a better golfer?
Sincerely. LVL
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I went to the range to this afternoon and was really pleased with the results - distance is outstanding (no...amazing!) and direction was great.

Also it all worked from LW to 2 wood of the deck (left the driver home). My clubs are 2degs upright and seem to really suit the concepts that are taught by GH.

There was one thing in the 3 tape set that helped me eradicate my toe hits completely. This course is a gem and I think that I will find it hard not to sneak out tomorrow morning for 9 holes to see if my mojo is still there.

If I do better than 45 tomorrow I will tell you; if not I may not post a follow-up :-)

REPLY: Go ahead and post your distances. I really added distance to all my irons after working PI and spending 3 days with George. I found particular increased length with my PW through 7 iron. I do not notice the same degree of increased length in my long irons, but I do notice and appreciate the increased accuracy of these clubs. And while my drives average 230-250 (and more frequently in the fairway), I find an occasional 260 -275 yarder each round (and they are in the fairway). Occasionally these drives will hit the down-slope and roll to near 299 (I don't want to use the "3" word).

I just purchased (and received yesterday) the Perfect Impact book/tape/3tape set. I purchased them out of desperation as I went from a high 80's gofer 2 years ago to a 100's golfer now - very sad.

LW, 70, 95
PW, 110, 135
SW, 90-100, 110+
9I, 135, 150
6I, 165, 185
5I, 185, 200+
3I, 7W and 2W could not see exactly where they landed.

These were done with a full swing. when I started hittin the PW so well I couldnot stick to the recommendation to only hit easy with the lofted clubs - It just felt so good I could not stop.

The long irons were just a little more dificult than the short irons but were the best long iron shots that I have hit consistantly.

I was also able to easily fade or draw my 6I with just a slight setup and grip change and then i just swung the same way as I did for normal shots. This method just takes a lot of variables and guesswork out of the swing. Typically when I have tried before I get double crossed - especially with fades!

I read with interest all the comments about one piece takeaway-swing
plane,pitfalls etc.

I am eighty years old and have been playing golf for fifty years-I've
learned that there are many ways to hit a golf ball-and different
thoughts and concepts and execution of takeaways work for different
folks and that's fine-do what works and repeats!

As I got older and lost my flexibility and conequently too much distance
to play credible golf-I kept searching for a different swing-most of
mygilfing life I was a one piece very rotational-swinger and for a small
guy I hit the ball pretty far-225 in my day with the equipment then was
a good hit! Within the last year-I tried the "perfect impact" method-I found it
simple and once I found the proper ball position for me-it became
repeatable-and I recaptured a lot of my lost distance-I think an eighty
year old hitting off the tee 190 to 210 is very respectable-it has
allowed me to play consistent bogey golf on long full courses and on
executive course-my consitency and straightness eats them up!I have no
idea how the GH system works for strong young golfers but for anyone
over 60-give it a try-you will retrieve a lot of golfing enjoyment and
drop a lot of frustration.

NO-I don't know GH-I have no "dog in the race"-
Find something that works for you-leave the advocacy of systems and
methods to the instructor pros-they are all right for those their
system works for and all wrong for those it doesn't work for!

Guess that's why when we watch the tour pros everybody looks different
using a variety of takeaways---

All I know is with the perfect impact swing-with the prescribe set up-grip
and one check point-the downswing and release are virtually
automatic-the fun is back!

The system works!! My last 5
games have been under 85, with two in the 70's. Just a year ago, i
seldom played in the 90's. My 10 year old daughter can drive 200
yards simply by using the grip Mr. Hibbard teaches and utilizing the
"secret of the thumb"

As a side note, i am hoping to attend one or more of your gatherings
next year. I live in Tampa, so maybe those within driving distance.

And Mr. Golfing Machine, i would love to take you on for 18 holes and
show you that Perfect Impact rules. I think you will find that the Golfing Machine needs a tuneup and grease
job

AS

> > I absolutely agree with a couple of points regarding instruction that
> George relays. The first being drills with no golf balls. You can't fix ball
> flight if simple basic fundamentals are not addressed. What's the problem with
> this?
>
> The problem is that George thinks all his competition (other teachers)
> doesn't do this.

Well, I've taken instruction from no less than three different
professionally accredited instructors and NOT ONE of them started with
the most fundamental basics. Even though I made a point to claim upfront
I knew absolutely nothing about golf. Not a single one!

The drill was exactly as GH described: talk for a coupla minutes, then
grab the basket and a 7 iron and "hit balls" while correcting this,
tweaking that, whatever.

With this great "accredited" instruction, I used to throw about 100 yards
with the 7 iron. When I was lucky.

Then I read in GH's website about this problem with regular instruction.
Got his stuff. Read and watched the videos. Changed my pro to one that
understood what I was trying to do. Went in for a session of "hit ball"
and my 7 iron was immediately 150 yards. It now reaches (after only a
few weeks of trying to apply PI) well over 160. That's carry.

Of course I'm pissed off at traditional teaching. What do you expect?
There is only so much I'll take from any1 messing with my wallet.

> > The things I don't agree with George on is the way he presents his
> material.
> > It is way too complex for the average joe to grasp easily.

Actually I believe what GH teaches is simple. What makes it appear
complex is the way it is presented. Not immediately obvious. Due to
many aspects already discussed. I sincerely hope GH manages to improve
that. He'll be on a winner if he succeeds.

> The drill shows the golfer how he can cause a tremendous clubhead speed (4
> or 5 times the speed of his moving hands) by how he moves the handle - the
> butt end of the club (actually the fulcrum of it).

That was a total epiphany. It felt amazing first time I heard that club
head whistle through *with* a high pitch.

> controlled using it so that the swing will be "on plane" - obviating
> over-the-top from the very first experience with a golf club. It shows how

> The drill shows how the various body parts' roles play out - and not
> academically only, but in FEELING and PRODUCING maximum clubhead speed.

In particular in what relates to middle age and older age restrictions.
PI is one of the very few methods I've seen that doesn't automatically
assume we all are 20 years old. If you included some more detail on
knees and legs, it would be even better. Of course IMHO, YMMV, etc etc.

> "mandated" - [IMO the pupil is patronized when he is not given to see the
> logic involved and how the items relate to the overall swing picture.]

Bingo! Hole in one, right there.

> being slowed down as much as it would be with left hand alone. The right
> hand does not act on the club directly. It pushes down on the top of the
> left thumb. I have never in my lifetime seen any conventional instruction
> which makes this point and clarifies it.

Butch Harmon mentions it in a recent snapshot in Golf Digest. But once
again (unlike PI) there is no "why" attached to it.

>
> Greg: this is for starters. There may be some particular area of swing
> stuff you wish to look at. If so, please take one at a time.

I'm surprised you've given so much away. There is always a risk when
doing this sort of thing that too much info will be passed on for free.
Which for someone making a living out of instruction may be counter-
productive. For obvious reasons.

To your credit, the stuff you wrote here I can vouch matches perfectly
what you talk about in full instruction. Nothing has been omitted or
hidden. Other than specific details of the individual steps. No one
would seriously expect you to write here the full instructional
materials. At least I'm not aware of anyone else being asked to do so,
so why should you have to?

Not bad, George. Not bad at all.

I'm having a ball! Never thought this thing could be so much fun. Used
to be heavily into judo and scuba. Advancing age stopped that side. Had
to find something that would keep me agile. This stuff and the hand
tools woodworking is just what I needed.

> I sure do, and that's what I love
> about the game. I'll never master it, there will always be further
> mysteries to plumb, and the mental side of it is just delicious.
>

Spot on.

> But let's realize that given where you started, you only had one way to
> go (up), and I can think of a half-dozen ways to get you from 34 to 26
> without you ever knowing who GH is.

I'm not for one second discounting that possibility. Just let it be said
that the pro lessons weren't the only avenue I pursued before I tried PI.
Videos, books, other players, pics and videos of my swing, you name it.
Nothing produced as fast and efficient a result as PI.

No worries. All I can say in all honesty is that it has worked well.
So far. I don't for a moment pretend it will always work in future, as I
get better. Once that happens, I'll seek a pro and some further
instruction. It's all a step in the long road, I suppose. Not a
problem. Right now I'm getting much more bang for buck out of GH's stuff than I'm
getting forking out multiple lessons with the pros. The day that
reverses, nothing wrong with it.

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Dear mr. d,

Your child would benefit greatly from instruction from Mr. George
Hibbard. My daughter is 10 years old and is already breaking 100 just
from my teaching her a few of Mr. Hiibard's secrets. By learning the
Perfect Impact system at such a young age, she will learn immediately
to avoid many of the pitfalls that prevent other golfers from ever
playing par golf. Call Mr. Hibbard or buy his tapes.. you will not
regret it. If you need further information about this incredible
system of golf instruction, feel free to e-mail me personally and we
can discuss this outside of this group, as the losers here will only
find another opportunity to condemn this system

For those of you in a slump, the Perfect impact book has a lot of
drills that will really help you. Go to the range as you can, do the
drills, and a par game won't be far away. The key to good golf is a
repeatable swing, one that holds up under pressure. Do the drills and
you will have that swing within weeks.

thank you George for changing my life!

A.

Feedback for George and the world,
Last week I spent 5 minutes on the phone with George and he
explained that from the top of the swing, the motion is basically a [snip].

Well, I ordered the short video, went home and
did that with 9-irons into the night. These
were full swings and produced amazing club head speed. The ball trajectory
was higher than I normally hit. The distance was farther and it produced a
slight draw. The video came on Saturday: I watched it and applied the grip
and now I chopped along the target line. I went to the range and hit 60
balls starting with the 54 degree gap wedge and progressing through the 5
iron. Oh my, wow, amazing, it's a miracle, somebody get the smelling salts:
I have never hit the ball this good in my 15 years of golfing. I now know
why a pro can stick a short iron within a few feet of the pin. On a good
day, I usually shoot 18 to 20 over par. I bet by the end of the Fall this
year I will break 80. I was only taking 3/4 swings and getting 10% more
distance from each iron than I used to with my normal full swing. AND the
ball went straight to the target, flew high and landed soft. Talk about
sticking it!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to work into a full swing and use
this swing with the big dog and fairway woods. I am sooooooooooooooooo
excited about golf!!!!!!!!!!!!! I plan to order the book and other videos
because I still have a few questions about details and want to do drills to
ingrain this motion into my body. This is the best instruction out there.
Thanks George!!

JM

Houston Texas
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Just got your complete kit this weekend.
Read through the pamphlet, watched the 5 minute video
on Friday night.

Went to the range on Saturday and applied a few things.
My 7 iron went from 110 metres to 130 in one go.
My 3 iron was consistently hit for the first time (past 200 metres!).
Not very far, only about 160 metres. But VERY consistent.
My 3 wood became a lot more consistent.
My 5 wood was hit for the first time from the ground
without going as fat as an elephant. Way past the 175 metre mark.
My driver was hit for the first time well past 220 metres.

Hmmmmm. This is getting very serious, Mr. Hibbard.
I think you got something here...

By Monday, I had been through the most part of the
first video on the 4 hour bit.
Went to my usual golf lesson at night. The pro was so surprised
with the improvement, he's gonna rework my schedule
around the much better swing and precision. Didn't tell him
yet how I got better.

At one stage on Monday I was CONSISTENTLY hitting the 7 iron past the
150 metre mark, straight as an arrow! Can't ask for more at 48 years
old and 4 months of serious golf!!!

Will be watching closely how this thing develops. So far, let me
just sum it up in two words:

Thank you!

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Hmmmm, MOL the same here. Let me be perfecly open: I'm not a golf expert.
But I know a thing or two about IT and being online, etiquette, etc.
Enough to say that the mental age of some of the people commenting
on all this rigmarole reeks of teenage bickering.

Now, I don't support any side here. I've been through the stuff that
GH sells. So far, two comments:

1- He needs an editor/marketing advisor badly. Not because what he sells
is bad, but because it could use some "spit and polish". Then again, if
he wants to keep the "down-to-earth" no-nonsense image, this may not be
a bad thing.

2- His stuff has done more for my swing and general gameplay than
anybody else, including my pro and all the books and videos
I saw before. And I include stuff like BH's book and David Leadbetter's
and Butch Harmon's videos.

Comment from my pro after I started following some of his stuff: "you
are improving at an enormous rate, we really need to jump into more
serious stuff here". That to me says it all as for the
quality of what I learned. And I'm far from finished with his 4 hour
stuff.

Note: I'm not saying he's the best. Not enough experience here to claim that.
But it certainly made a difference. A bigger difference than anything else
so far.

George: I ordered your book and video back in April and exchanged an email or two with you at that time. I had shared my plans of visiting my sons in Tallahassee and possibly making a day trip over to visit you. Things didn't quite work out that way, but I wanted to share my golf successes of the summer with you.

I'm a school teacher (band director) and my only "stretch" of time to do any concentrated work on golf happens in June and July. I've been playing for two years, and I've become addicted to this wonderful and grand game.

I had set a goal to play five 18-hole rounds under 80 this summer, but I was unsure whether I would be able to do that at my age (55), limited experience, and presumed lack of flexibility. I committed and dedicated myself to steady, persistent, and consistent practice routines at the range to develop my swing while playing several rounds per week to check progress and diagnose weak areas. Your Perfect Impact swing instruction is my model for development and monitoring.

I'm thrilled to report that I achieved my goal on August 1 with my 5th round under 80 -- a 79 that could've been lower if I had hit several putts more firmly. Over the course of the summer I scored rounds of 77, two 78's, and two 79's. I played many more rounds than this (some were downright UGLY!), but overall there was a great deal of improvment. The bad scoring rounds were due to "muscling" the club, then paralysis by analysis and further tightening and restriction of the swing. Good rounds were free-wheeling and easy -- very comfortable and relaxed. My GHIN index dropped from a 17.9 to 10.4 in two months. If I had two more weeks, I believe I could drop it another 3 or 4 points.

My point in relating all of this is that your Perfect Impact instruction provided the information and the diagnostics for me to improve my swing and increase my enjoyment of the game immensely! (Competency is so much better than whacking and hoping!) For all of this I can only express my sincere thanks, and to wish for you all the best that God has for you.

I've tried Dalton's stuff for about 12 months. My short/mid irons are great (as straight as you can point), but from 4 iron to driver I get a fade to slice. I ordered Perfect Impact yesterday, & I'm really looking forward to what George Hibbard has to say.

snake oil salesman....along with that clown on the informercial (who also sells Atkins diet and other things) who magically turned from a hack and starting striping them down the range and had a big audience. Yea right...

Go with the perfect impact stuff. I have the book and the short video. Haven't dedicated myself to it, but it makes a lot of sense and isn't some new fangled flash in the pan stuff. Plus George is on here and will answer any questions you have etc..

Tried both and PI is more the real deal. DM's stuff is fun to watch and sounds like it should work. The only thing I got from it is a better takeaway which did help. George's material is more common-science-sense and does work well. I have modified some what PI teaches but George says that's OK.

Go for the PI material and use it and find a way to make it work for you as it is the more accurate method. Good luck.

"/golfequip/messages?msg=94999.1" Dalton McCrary's "Straight Shootin":what do you think? Why did you quit? Why did you Not quit? Any feedback is welcomed. Thanks

"/golfequip/messages?msg=94999.2" in reply to \l "a1" I did the whole freakin' program. I quit because I got my Perfect Impact tapes in and the information and teaching in that set helped me 100% more than Daltons.

Here's the bottom line... wanna learn golf? Buy The Perfect Impact tapes.
Wanna be entertained? Buy Daltons stuff.

I want to second what swampbuck said. George has the real stuff. Try it, you'll like it. PI has really turned my game around.

"/golfequip/messages?msg=91509.20" in reply to "/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=91509.1" You cant do any better than to listen to George, I attended the Colorado Perfect Impact class he did a few weeks ago, and I have been doing the PI swing for about 9 months now. I am not as tall as you are but 5' 10" about 240. The more you do the PI swing the easier it gets. George pointed out that i was using just my upper body to swing the club, basically not rotating my shoulders, and because of my strength I was able to get away with it. I have been really trying to get the shoulder rotation into the swing without forcing it, let me tell you distance is phenominal, and consistency is slowly but surely getting there. Just last weekend I went out to play 9 holes, all of my shots with the driver were 310 or beyond, had several wedge shots, all around 150, 6 iron was 210 and 5wd was 250, not trying to brag mind you but as George puts it its not just clubhead speed, but mechanical leverage and mass that also provide BALL speed and distance. Keep on using his PI swing method and it will pay off huge.

"/golfequip/messages?msg=91509.17" in reply to "/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=91509.4" Well, George. I've been hesitant to get your book and tapes, but I feel a little obligated now... :)

I went to a golf retailer that has a simulator last night. I was looking for a hybrid, and came upon a Cleveland model (24*; so it should fly a little more than a 4 iron) at a decent price, so I thought I'd try it out.

Stayed balanced on my feet (not on my toes), moved the trail foot back and flared both feet out. Did what your asked on the downswing, and I added the thought of letting the centrifugal force of the club carry me through to finish, a la Fred Couples. I also relaxed my wrists and achieved a full release.

After a few warmup swings, I was hitting the ball about 185, which is a little shorter than I normally hit my 5 wood. As I warmed up I got into the low 190s, and I started to hit a draw. Then, out of the clear blue, I pounded one 210 yards, which is my 3 wood distance, with a beautiful draw!

The best part of the whole night was the associate who came in to check on me right as I hit the 210 ball. He looked at the screen, then looked at me and said "You got 210 with THAT club?" He took it from me, looked at the head and said "24 degrees? Wish, I could get that kind of distance with a 24* hybrid."

I need to chime in on my success with your Perfect Impact technique. Basically, you have to listen to me brag.

The power and control I have absorbed through your book and tapes is incredible. It is early in my golf obsession, and I have only had your information since late March, but my gains in effortless power and ball control are sheer joy. Golf is rapidly becoming my zen activity, with your help. Thanks.

I have an interesting story of how I took up the game two years ago. I had played as a kid, but was always frustrated at the effort required to muscle a ball from rough to deeper rough. I was a teenage knucklehead, so if it didn't require lots of muscular exertion and cussing, I wasn't interested. My dad had even taken me to a local pro for a couple of lessons. My scores languished in the 110s and 120s. Frustrated, I quit playing. That was roughly thirty years ago.

Two years back, my (then) ten year old son called me from a sleepover at a friend's house.

"No, but my buddy will let me borrow whatever I need. All I need from you is some money (ain't that a surprise!) and your permission to sign up for a Junior League."

A little kid going out and playing with his friends? I'm no party pooper! Of course I said, "Sure, go play!" and coughed up the $25.

Next thing I know, my boy needs a ride to the course, and $15, nearly every single day all summer long. He was hooked. Not wanting my ten year old out there wandering the course alone, I decided to dust off a set of old Pedersens my dad had given me when he wore them out 30 years ago. Next thing I know, I'm more hooked than my son is!

Golf was still frustrating, but I made slow progress. I struggled last summer and kept at it, but was shooting between 100 and 112. Then, after a year, my progress stopped. I was barely able to keep up with my 11 year old. My consistency was awful. I would hit about half of my shots well, but duff was an apt description for the rest.

This winter I discovered your site, but I wasn't ready to bite yet. A couple of rounds in Tampa in early March convinced me I needed some external assistance to really improve my ball striking and consistency. I also knew that a local pro was not the answer for me. I had been to a couple lessons when I was young and all I recall from them was my frustration increased. I would hit the ball in their presence, and take nothing of value away from the sessions to use on the course. To watch them stroke the ball effortlessly only added to my misery. Why them and not me?

Being the good techie and skeptic, this spring I scoured the web in search of the Holy Grail. I swear I read every review on your site. I received "5 Minutes to a Perfect Swing ..." and swung the PW in the living room that night. It just felt natural and correct. The following day(March 26th) I ordered the 3 tape set and the book.

I immediately skimmed the material for what I knew my game needed most, and adopted it. My scores dropped to the middle 90s. After a few weeks at the new plateau, I again felt the urge to make some improvement.

So a couple of weeks ago, I put one of your tapes in the VCR. I decided that I needed to "return to the source" for another dose of the cure. I started watching and found a nugget if instruction here, then another there. One little piece of the puzzle has fallen into place at a time, and I am beginning to see a swing emerge from the chaos.

I have since studied your technique and adopted as much as I can absorb into my game. The most recent gem: I have begun using your motor boat and water skier analogy, I have begun to pull the club through from the shoulder with rag limp arms. The results were immediate power and consistency.

My ball striking has taken a quantum leap. My drives are improving - but sometimes my slice just puts the ball deeper into the woods. ;^)

But I'm improving! I now know that I can get consistent with more practice. I now feel as if I am in control of my swing, and my game.

This past weekend, I started hitting the ball with an effortless power I had never experienced before. Irons from within 130 were settling gently on greens and holding. I shot an 86, by far my personal best. As a side benefit, I have shared the wealth of knowledge with my son, now 12, and he is driving the ball consistently over 220 yards, straight as an arrow. Even he was surprised that maybe his old man DOES know something about golf after all!

"/golfequip/messages?msg=91552.1" I just got the tape Friday. After watching the tape and practicing the drills in the back yard with some whiffle balls I headed to the course. WOW! I have never hit the ball so solidly in all of my life and with a lack of effort. I was always trying to manipulate my hands to control the ball and this couldn't have been further from the truth. I have tried the Natural Golf method and some other SA methods with no success. These truly should be called "Un-natural Golf" as George suggests.

I don't want to sound like I'm getting paid for this plug but I am so thoroughly elated with the tape "5 minutes to a perfect swing" that I just wanted to share my excitement with others. IGOLFAT8

"/golfequip/messages?msg=91509.8" in reply to "/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=golfequip&msg=91509.1" I know this is going to sound like a sales pitch but get George's Book/video tapes . I did a couple of weeks ago and it works ! He explains things very well in terms that are easy to understand . No one book or video has helped me as much . I'm 6' 285lb before George my 8 was about 145 now mt 9 is my 150 yd club with fer less effort and Way more control . I was a LAWS junkie before PI also and allot of the stuff they have in there book will make more sense after you read/study perfect impact . The way George has you set up at address has me making center of clubface contact better than I ever have , it will help yu far more than 20 bucket's of balls or 1 round of golf at a ritzy course "about what it costs" I can't reccomend PI highly enough

The effect of PI on my game... Greghead
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Joined: Apr 05, 2001
Posts: 1383
From: Lancaster PA
Posted: 2002-06-18 22:22

5 times out of 5. I am 58 and started playing just about 2 years ago. I am serious about learning so I hit balls or play every day. I already had a set of Gravity Golf

I took 5 or 6 lessons from Rudy Duran, one of Tiger's old coaches, and it helped me get started. But after watching your tapes and reading the book, I found your technique creeping into my game. Suddenly, I started hitting better, more consistent shots. My distance increased with both irons and woods even though I am putting less effort into the swing. My chipping has also improved dramatically from keeping my weight over my left foot and understanding the pendulum action, as you explained. Now, I am enjoying the game more. All of this after about 3 weeks practicing your way. I feel like I may be able to break par someday, that seemed impossible before.

Hey Northernhiro,

This was one incredibly busy weekend at the Bogan household. I picked up George at the airport on Friday and got so spend about two hours with him at the course that afternoon. George absolutely knows his stuff and is a great teacher. Did I mention that he's a giant of a man (6' 6" or something like that). We had unbeliveable weather that day (see pics below). ** Yea, I've got a typo on one of the pics, but don't have time to re-do it now **

We had a total of 20 people at the event, some coming from as far away as Nebraska and Wyoming. The class lasted from 8:00AM - 5:30PM. It included a lot on the full swing, including video analysis. George also got into putting and chipping as well.

All in all, the feedback was quite positive and we are actually planning on possibly doing another Academy next year. George lived up to his reputation and I think that everyone who attended really got a lot out of it. We had attendees from both PoF & GEA as well as a few other sources. Did I mention that our own Chris (aka/GolfBoy) is a Charles Howell III Protégé? Young and has a very powerful swing! Keep at it my friend! Richard from GEA is an absolute beast off the tee. The only person that I've ever watched in person drill 300+ drives one after another. Big and powerful dude. Lots of other great swings there as well.

Sidenote: George & Perfect Academy appear in the June issue of Golf magazine (page 26 I believe). Good stuff. I highly recommend George's material ( "http://www.perfectimpact.com" ). If you ever have the opportunity from learning from him in person, by all means, take it!

- Hennie Bogan

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